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Minutes of First Half 2004 Meetings (see Current Minutes Here)

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Oakes Estates Advisory
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
June 1st, 2004

Directors In Attendance

Karl Fry 
Mark Smith 
Jim Rice 
Diane Corbett 

Kyle Burke

Ray Russell

Rob Corbett

Call to Order / Quorum / Past Minutes

President Karl Fry called meeting to order at 7:05. A quorum of Board members was present. The minutes of the previous meeting of May 2004 have been posted on the web site.

Report of the Treasurer

Treasurer Denny Baker was not present so there was no treasurer's report. In May, he reported that our association has $4,434.00 in the bank. There have not been significant deposits or withdrawals during the past month.

Old Business

Neighborhood Park - GREAT NEWS!
Jim Rice attended the latest meeting of the Golden Gate Land Trust on May 24, at which time they approved the land trade proposed by the School Board. This means that the 5-acre parcel at Spanish Oaks Lane and Oakes Blvd will be donated to the county for use as a Neighborhood Park! Next steps will be to determine whether Parks & Recreation will require additional surveys to be collected, and then to begin the collaborative design process. Stay tuned!

Children's Safety
Karl Fry received an email from Commissioner Henning. It was a forward of internal county communications regarding the cost of constructing cement pads at each of our 8 avenues. These pads would be on culverts over the swales near the corner of Oakes Blvd and each avenue, and would provide a safe, off-road place for kids to wait for the school bus. Cost was upwards of $80,000 and Commissioner Henning indicated that we would need to lobby the School Board to contribute a percentage of the cost-the county won't foot the entire bill. 

Storm water Drainage
Mark Smith had invited Jerry Kurtz from the county Storm water department but Jerry was detained at a meeting and was unable to attend. He has been rescheduled for next month.


Target PUD Re-Zoning
Mark Smith, Kyle Burke, and Rob/Diane Corbett had attended another multi-neighborhood meeting at Olde Cypress. Commissioner Henning and Don Scott from the Transportation Department were the guests. 

While the zoning already permits the developers to put in several hundred thousand square feet of commercial in the SE elbow between I-75 and Immokalee Road, there is some question as to how much additional traffic can be "vested" by the project. There are other main projects to the east such as Ave Maria that will be competing for traffic capacity.

The county only allows new projects to add future traffic counts until a main road such as Immokalee Road reaches its threshold. The threshold does increase as widening projects are approved, and the timeline against which projects are approved versus when the roads will be improved is known as "checkbook concurrency."

There is another meeting scheduled for next week on the expectation of updated traffic figures from Don Scott. The purpose of that meeting is to clarify our position and options with respect to limiting or at least controlling the type and size of commercial enterprises that are built. The Oakes board is going to wait until the issue and our options have been clarified a bit before soliciting input from the neighborhood.

New Business

Red Cross - RWTC Program
We were provided info from the Red Cross about a program where Oakes Estates might furnish some volunteers to be trained in disaster relief, to be available only in the event of a major disaster in our area. The board voted to invite the Red Cross to attend next month's meeting and provide more information.

Continuity of Leadership
Karl Fry indicated that he would not seek another term as President, and will step down after completing his two-year term next February. It is time to begin thinking about who will lead this organization next year. 

He pointed out that many organizations, such as Rotary and other civic organizations, have a rotating leadership system where people rotate through director-level positions. This ensures adequate training of leaders through direct exposure to the people who held the positions the prior year. 

At a minimum, Karl suggested that an alternative to a grueling two-year presidential term would be to have the Vice President step into the President's position each year, then elect a new Vice President. Anyone interested in a leadership role on our Board is invited to contact the President or any board member through the website. 

A Motion was made by Jim Rice to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Rob Corbett. 

Meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m. by President Karl Fry. 

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Oakes Estates Advisory
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
May 4th, 2004

Directors In Attendance

Karl Fry
Denny Baker
Jim Rice
Diane Corbett

Lisa Absher

Mark Smith

Ray Russell

Rob Corbett

Call to Order / Quorum / Past Minutes

Meeting was called to order at 7:05 by President Karl Fry. A quorum of Board members were present. The minutes of the previous meeting of April 2004 were approved and have been posted on the web site.

Report of the Treasurer

Treasurer Denny Baker reported that the committee had $4,434.00 in the bank this was after a check had been posted to the lawyer involved in helping us with the Faith Community Church issue. The treasurer also asked that the record show statutory taxes were filed and that no taxes were due. 

Old Business

Neighborhood Park:
Jim Rice gave us an update on the business of the neighborhood park, noting that there would be a meeting of the Golden Gate Land Trust on May 24, at which time we would attend and find out whether we as a group have a chance of obtaining this land. He had spoken with one member of the commission and was told we had a good fighting chance, but no guarantee.

Litter Prevention and Clean-Up:
Jim Rice suggested that we could make this a Board project in the future, but that litter is not at a serious level at this time. 

Street Renaming - 20th Ave Sign:
WCI's sign on the Tarpon Bay side of the road still says 20th Ave NW. Karl Fry provided an update from Peter Goodin that WCI had ordered the sign with the new Spanish Oaks Lane name and it should be up in the near future. 

Vanderbilt Beach Road Expansion: 
Denny Baker informed us that he and fellow neighbors would be picking up trees from the county this week and dropping them at the 8 residences that had signed up for this service. It is up to each homeowner to plant and maintain these trees. Thank you to Denny for working hard for the neighborhood on this issue.

Logan Blvd. Extension:
We are in talks with Commissioner Henning on this issue, particularly concerning the 30-foot easement that runs along our eastern properties. We are pursuing the strategy of obtaining access to about half of that easement for planting of landscaping to provide a visual barrier to the new road. County funding will not be provided, and no noise abatement has been justified within the noise studies. We would like to hear from the residents whose property line this affects and find out from them what they feel would be the best solution concerning this easement.

Neighborhood Business Links on the Oakes Website:
Chuck Cannaday who is our webmaster was not present at this meeting so we had no further updates.

Stormwater Drainage
Mark Smith had spoken with county stormwater officials and they are doing a pilot survey of two streets within Livingston Woods, to determine which swales need to be corrected to provide unimpeded flow. Funding for culvert replacement still remains a hurdle, as this is currently the responsibility of the homeowner. The county is investigating funding for culverts, but some are pavers, some are blacktop, and some are cement so how do you agree on a fair funding price. They estimate $200,000 per street to re-engineer the swales and culverts. Oakes Estates may be in the next round of surveys but probably not this rainy season.

Children's Safety:
There was no new update at this time.

New Business:
A discussion with the Board about our endorsing Tom Henning as a candidate for Commissioner took place, with the Committee deciding that a letter would be developed and possibly placed on our website not endorsing Tom Henning but thanking him for all his help and support over the past year.


A Motion was made by Jim Rice to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Rob Corbett. 

Meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m. by President Karl Fry. 

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Oakes Estates Advisory
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
April 6th, 2004

Directors Present

Karl Fry           Kyle Burke
Bob Walker         Jim Rice
Denny Baker Diane Corbett
Rob Corbett

Call to Order / Quorum / Past Minutes

Meeting was called to order at 7:10 by President Karl Fry. A quorum of Board members was present. The minutes of the previous meeting of March 2, 2004 were approved and have been posted on the web site.

Report of the Treasurer

Treasurer Denny Baker reported that the committee had $4500 in the bank. A Motion was made by Bob Walker and 2nd by Rob Corbett that the Board approve the Treasurer's request of $750.00 to be paid to the attorney we hired for the case against Faith Community Church. Motion was voted on and approved.

Old Business

Tarpon Bay partnership
Diana Peguese from the Tarpon Bay HOA attended our meeting and expressed two sentiments: 1) great support for the park, and 2) great concerns about the Target proposed behind the Amsouth Bank on Tarpon Bay Blvd, and the dire traffic implications for both Tarpon Bay Blvd and Oakes Blvd. She had heard they might bridge across to Autumn Oaks Lane (former 24th Ave NW) as an outlet for Target. We had not been advised of this and are checking into it. We agreed to partner together to present a unified and compelling voice to the county.

Neighborhood Park
Karl Fry gave us an update that the matter is back in the hands of the Golden Gate Land Trust who meets next on May 24. Previously, the School Board approved release of our property, but with the stipulation that they be given rights to another property. Surveys are being conducted on both properties, and the Golden Gate Land Trust will discuss whether to approve the trade. We will have to wait for that meeting before moving forward with our survey process

Litter Prevention and Clean-Up
Jim Rice informed us that he has received the orange vests and six litter sticks from the previous litter prevention team which was sponsored by Wiegold. He suggested that we could make this a Board project in the future. Scheduling and selection of volunteers will be discussed at the next meeting.

Vanderbilt Beach Road Expansion
There were no further updates on this issue except to note that 10 residents of English Oaks Lane had taken up the county's offer of free trees to plant along the southern most tip of their properties to help with the visual impact of the road expansion. We are awaiting County Commission approval on the consent agenda (which has been received as of the posting of these notes.) These trees will now be picked up and delivered to our owners for planting.

Logan Blvd. Extension:
NOTE: There will be a 60% planning meeting at Saturnia Lakes on April 22nd at 4:30PM for anyone interested in attending. 

Karl Fry and Rob Corbett met with Commissioner Henning and other representatives from the county and a few buffering alternatives were discussed. The project manager told us there was little extra space within the right of way for a wall or berm. The most encouraging idea concerns the 30 foot drainage easement that runs along our eastern properties. 16 feet of this easement appear are for an access road which has not been maintained and may not be needed, as this swale is for a 25-year flood event and remains dry 99% of the time. This is an ongoing concern for all residents in our neighborhood and the Board has requested direct assistance from Commissioner Henning.

Neighborhood Business Links on the Oakes Website:
We now have two businesses on the Neighborhood Businesses page of our website. Residents are invited to visit the page to look for neighborhood services and spread the word to any business owners regarding this opportunity for low-cost advertising.

Children's Safety
Bob Walker is in talks with Commissioner Henning on this subject. It seems that the neighborhood that the Commissioner lives in is dealing with this subject as well, so we are confident that together we can come up with a solution that will help our children wait safely for the school bus. Different alternatives for off-road structures or safe waiting areas are under discussion.

New Business

Endorsement of Commissioner Henning
A Motion was made by Denny Baker to place on the agenda for the next meeting ideas for discussion with the Board about our endorsing Tom Henning as a candidate for Commissioner. Seconded by Jim Rice Voted on and Approved.

Oakes Estates Advisory Membership Incentives
A Motion was made by Bob Walker to place on the agenda ideas for incentives to attract new members to the Oakes Estates Advisory Committee. Seconded by Jim Rice. Voted on and Approved.

A Motion was made by Denny Baker to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Rob Corbett. 

Meeting was adjourned by President Karl Fry at 8:30PM.

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Oakes Estates Advisory
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
March 2, 2004

Board Members In 

Attendance

Karl Fry
Denny Baker
Lisa Absher
Ray Russell
Chuck Cannaday

Kyle Burke
Diane Corbett
Rob Corbett
Jim Rice

Guests 
Joe Pisani Representative from Tarpon Bay HOA

Call to Order / Quorum / Past Minutes

Meeting was called to order at 7:07 p.m. by President Karl Fry. A quorum of directors was present. The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and have been posted on the website.

Treasurer's Report

Treasurer Denny Baker reported that the committee has a balance of $4,503.00 in the bank while still awaiting a bill from the lawyer of approximately $700. 

Neighborhood Park

Of the surveys that we have received back from our mailing, 95% of the votes are for the Board to pursue the issue of a neighborhood park, unfortunately at this point we need over 50% of our residents to respond positively to the park before Parks & Recreation will continue in support of our cause. Joe Pisani from Tarpon Bay voiced the concerns of his community the main issues being the safe crossing of people across Oakes Blvd, and also the problems that may arise from the gathering of people particularly at night. Safe access will need to be addressed. Additional concerns identified by Oakes Estates residents include use by neighboring developments such as Tarpon Bay and Malibu Lakes, which cannot be avoided. It may in fact be a uniting factor between our developments. Also, some homeowners are concerned about playground equipment being an attractor for very young children to attempt crossing Oakes without adult supervision. These are concerns that will be addressed during the design phase; right now the main job is acquiring the property.

Vanderbilt Beach Road Six-Laning

After engineering review, the county rejected our suggestion that the retention pond be stretched in order to reduce the number of trees that have to be removed from county right-of-way. They indicated that this will not allow proper drainage and that the current plan took two years to develop and get approved through various environmental agencies.

On a positive note, the county has hundreds of free trees to the south-side residents of English Oaks Lane to be planted at the south end of their properties to replace some of the buffer trees that will have to be removed for the retention pond and northward relocation of the drainage canal. These are Bald Cypress, Pond Cypress and Live Oak. Approximately 12 residents have expressed interest in acquiring approximately 500 trees.

Logan Blvd. Extension 

This road will begin construction early next year. Rob Corbett volunteered to be Chairman of the committee which will oversee the progress of Logan Blvd. and how it concerns our neighborhood on the issues of noise, drainage and overall effect it will have on our community. There is to be a meeting scheduled with Commissioner Henning and the Project Manager Dale Bathon which the committee will be attending. This meeting will take place on Monday, March 15th. 

Neighborhood Business Links on Oakes Website

Chuck Cannaday who is presently our Webmaster presented an addendum to the Advertising Policy previously distributed to the Board concerning the business links on the website. The addendum addresses some questions regarding pricing, ad size, qualification as a neighborhood business, and categorization of ads. There was discussion among the members and residents of the pros and cons of using the website for advertising. Cons included concerns about a not-for-profit organization realizing revenue from advertising. Pros included this being a service to neighborhood residents wishing to find and do business with neighborhood-owned businesses. It was agreed that only neighborhood-owned businesses could advertise and that proceeds would go into the Oakes Estates Advisory general fund to be used only for projects approved by the board for betterment of our community.
A Motion was made by Denny Baker and seconded by Ray Russell to accept the recommendations proposed by Chuck in his addendum and presentation for advertising on the website. 
A Vote was taken, 7 For and 2 Against. 
Motion Passed

Decorative Signs for Oakes Estates and our Avenues

Terry Iamurri presented two quotes for decorative 6' or 8' wide decorative wood signs to announce the north and south ends of Oakes Estates as well as each of our eight avenues. Quotes in differing sizes of blasted wood ranged from $4600 to $6000. We thank her for her efforts and the board will revisit this opportunity to enrich our neighborhood at a time when financial reserves are stronger and after the neighborhood has been polled. Sand-blasted wood signs is one of several alternatives. 

Adjournment

A Motion was made by Denny Baker to adjourn this meeting.
Seconded by Rob Corbett.
Meeting was adjourned by President Karl Fry at 8:30 p.m.

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Oakes Estates Advisory
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
February 3rd, 2004

Board Members In Attendance

Karl Fry 
Rob Corbett 
Ray Russell
Chuck Cannaday 
Jim Rice
Bob Walker 
Mark Smith
Denny Baker 
Diane Corbett 
Lisa Absher

Special Guests

Tom Henning
Gregg Strakaluse
Al Ruth
Steve Whittier

County Commissioner District 3
Director of Transportation Engineering
Project Manager Vanderbilt Road Extension
Parks and Recreation Department

Call to Order / Quorum / Past Minutes

Meeting was called to order at 7:07 p.m. by President Karl Fry. A quorum of directors was present. The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and have been posted on the website.

Treasurer's Report

Treasurer Denny Baker reported that the committee had presently $2555.00 in the bank with a bill for the lawyers fee from Church issue still to come which would be approximately $700.00 and also approximately $530 (corrected after meeting based on actual receipts) charge coming from the cost of the yearly mailing. Extra postage was purchased in expectation of a separate mailing of the park survey. This postage was not used and will apply toward the next mailing. The committee should have about $1100-$1200 left in the bank after these transactions take place. 

Special Presentation by Commissioner Henning

Mr. Henning gave a presentation of the Overpass issue currently in the news concerning Airport Pulling Rd and Golden Gate Parkway. He wanted to get a feel from his constituents on how they felt about a surface street strategy posed by the Naples City Council, known as the "Michigan turn around," versus the Overpass approach. The consensus from 40-50 attendees was that the overpass seemed to be the way to go. He felt that was the best decision as well. He answered questions from the group, with most of the concerns being traffic related. We all know that the county is having a very hard time keeping up with the phenomenal growth of the area and that traffic is a major concern everywhere in town. 

Commissioner Henning and visiting Transportation Department guests were given many different suggestions from the crowd as to how to better serve our community and promised to take a closer look at many of these ideas. 

Connection to county sewer and water

Mr. Henning indicated that this would most likely be mandated at a point in time when saltwater incursion into our aquifer started to affect our wells. In other words, when brine turns up in our water. There is no immediate indication that this is happening, and the line of salination in our main aquifer is still quite a ways from our area, so it is not currently in the county's plans. 

Current Business

Street renaming issues

There have been a few problems with mail delivery. The post office is aware of the name changes so there is no reason we should not receive our mail as normal. They will deliver all mail addressed to our old address for a period of one year. We do each need to notify creditors and correspondents of the change, and we need to get our drivers licenses changed as well!

There have been problems with internet directory and mapping and directions websites. Unfortunately, it will take a while for our new names to filter through all of these websites. While the internet has given us access to new info and services, we have no control, nor does the county, over when each of these websites updates their data.

We have also had a serious issue where an ambulance was called and it never arrived. EMS could not find the address in their system. Fortunately, the situation turned out OK for the patient. This was an error in the county's process, where Police and Emergency Services' systems should already have been updated. Commissioner Henning is following up in order to make sure this never happens again.

Election of Open Board Positions

With Debbie Mosher stepping down from the Board and Chuck Cannaday's term coming to an end it was necessary to have an election. Chuck let us know that he would stay on the Board for another term for which we were all pleased. Chuck was renominated and unanimously kept in his position as webmaster and director.

For Debbie Mosher's replacement, Jim rice nominated Kyle Burke, and Ray Russell seconded the nomination.
Voted on and Passed unanimously by the board.
Kyle Burke will be a director for a two year term.
Welcome to the Board Kyle!

Projects for 2004

Neighborhood Park

Jim Rice volunteered to be Chairman of the committee. There are currently four members including Jim, Rick Smith, Stan Mosher, and Lisa Absher. As our survey has been circulated, we are also waiting for the School Board District to decide if they have any use for the mostly-wetlands piece of land at Spanish Oaks and Oakes Blvd (SW corner). If they will release the land, we have asked the Golden Gates Land Trust, who formally owns the property, to give it to the county for the purposes of building a park for Oakes Estates residents. Steve Whittier from Parks & Recreation made it clear that the design process will be collaborative between the department and our residents. They will seek and listen to our comments, advice, and desires for the park. 

Children's Safety Committee

Lisa Absher volunteered to be Chairwoman of this committeee, which has four members including Diane Corbett, Bob Walker, and Yavuz Karagas. Suggestions from our neighbors are welcome. We are hoping to come to a workable solution with the county whereas our children have a safe place to stand or sit while waiting for the school bus, and for crossing the street. 

Vanderbilt Beach Road Six-Laning

This road will begin construction this summer. Residents on the south side of English Oaks Lane (formerly 10th Ave NW) are concerned about removal of existing trees up to the property lines, and lack of visual or noise buffering between us and the soon-to-be expanded road. Peter Goodin volunteered to chair the committee, made up of 4 other members including Rich Lidgard, Nando Ortegan, Dave Field, and Denny Baker (consultant). The committee will be meeting with Al Ruth, Commissioner Henning, and officials of the Transportation department during the week of February 9th, to discuss noise and visual landscaping solutions. 

Logan Blvd. Extension 

This road will begin construction early next year. Rob Corbett volunteered to be Chairman of the committee which will oversee the progress of Logan Blvd. and how it concerns our neighborhood on the issues of noise, drainage and overall effect it will have on our community. It currently has 3 other members who are Dave Dalton, Lisa Absher, and Nancy Jane Berens-Tetzlaff. The committee welcomes comments and concerns from our residents can be reached via our website.

Adjournment

A Motion was made by Mark Smith to adjourn this meeting.
Seconded by Rob Corbett.
Meeting was adjourned by President Karl Fry at 9:00 p.m.

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Oakes Estates Advisory
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
January 6, 2004

Board Members In Attendance

Karl Fry
Mark Smith
Denny Baker 
Rob Corbett 
Jim Rice 
Bob Walker
Diane Corbett
Ray Russell
Lisa Absher

 

Call to Order / Quorum / Past Minutes
Meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by President Karl Fry. A quorum of directors was present. 

Treasurer's Report
Denny Baker reported that there had been 1 check written in the amount of $250 to Peter Goodin for reimbursement of new street signs and the official balance was now $2750.00. 

Bob Walker reported that we have received a bill from our attorney for around $700 for her research regarding the Golden Gate Area Master Plan as it applied to Faith Community Church's application for a childcare & pre-school facility. Two January mailings, for our park survey and our annual mailing, will require about $500-$600 in postage and supplies. This will leave a net balance of $1,400 to $1,500. 

Old Business

Status of Street Renaming

Peter Goodin has received the new signs for 10th and 12th Avenues, and will be placing them with the help of Ray Russell in the very near future. This concludes the Street Renaming project and much thanks goes out to Peter Goodin and the street captains for all their hard work.

Faith Community Church's application for a childcare / pre-school:
This issue was also completed. The Church and the Board came to an agreement, which was approved by the Board of County Commissioners (BCC) on December 18th. The Church will have a maximum of 45 children attending the facility, with our neighborhood's children getting second priority behind those of church members and regular attendees. They also agreed not go apply for additional students until at least 5 years after completion of Logan Blvd. Livingston Rd. and Collier Blvd improvements from Vanderbilt Beach Road to Immokalee Road. There will also be no changes made to Oaks Blvd. (such as turn lanes) to accommodate the childcare facility. Our neighborhood was officially thanked by the county commissioners for seeking compromise. Russell Budd was instrumental in facilitating the final agreement, also with help from Mark Strain.

Neighborhood Park
The committee for this issue submitted a preliminary survey sheet to the attendees of the meeting and welcomed any suggestions or changes to be made before sending it out to the neighborhood. Changes and ideas were noted and we should see the new survey any time soon. TAKE OUR SURVEY HERE

Storm Drainage
This issue is being looked into by Mark Smith, who is trying to get our neighborhood on the survey list for this winter. There is nothing to report at this time.

Annual Letter
Next month on Tuesday, February 3rd, is our annual meeting where retiring directors and officers are replaced. It is time for us to put together a newsletter letting the residents know of the Board's accomplishments for the past year and what we wish to accomplish in the year to come. This letter will also be looking for new members to join the organization as well as looking for dues from present members. Karl Fry and Mark Smith will put together a letter and send to the committee for approval.

Litter Control
Ray Russell volunteered to look into the issue of cleaning up our roadsides on Oaks Blvd., as Wiegold is no longer looking after this job.

Business Links on our Web Page 
Chuck Cannaday was not present at this meeting so there was no update on this issue.

New Business

Vanderbilt Beach Road Expansion
There was a discussion concerning the county having to build a water retention area to facilitate the new lanes and with this they will be taking up to 30 feet of woods on the south end of 10th Ave, all the way to each owner's property line. Concerned residents attended the meeting hoping to get the help of the Board. A committee was formed including Peter Goodin, Rob Corbett, Nando Ortegan, Dave Field, and Denny Baker to work with the county and evaluate all our options concerning visual and noise buffers, the removal of these woods, and the development of this water retention pond.

Children's Safety Committee
A resident voiced their concerns over our children's safety while waiting for the school bus. It is a potentially dangerous situation for our kids especially on the east side of Oakes. With the amount of traffic, lack of sidewalks and the time of day (the sun coming up) improvements are necessary. A committee was set up including Lisa Absher, Bob Walker, Diane Corbett and Yavuz Karagoz to look into what options we as a community have in securing our children a safe place to wait for the school bus. We are hoping for suggestions and concerns to come in once the annual letter goes out to the residents.

A Motion was made by Mark Smith that we adjourn this meeting. Seconded by Denny Baker. 

Meeting was adjourned by President Karl Fry at 8:30 p.m.

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